Hi Truthsearcher, good to hear from you again, Oh ya don't worry bout me it was just another massive depression. Nothing new. I'm a fighter. How have you been?
Tyrone van leyen
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Adjusting well after leaving the dubs
by greendawn inafter you left the jws what were some milestone events that helped you adjust to normal life outside the cult eg meeting a genuinely christian group, or getting a good job with high income, marrying a nice "worldly" person.
after leaving i had a nice girlfriend which helped a lot to ease the tensions and an interesting job where i met a lot of people and had some good social life.
soon the jw world became a distant storm far below and after the internet came out i got the long since needed information on some still outstanding issues and lost all esteem for them as i realised the fds was definitely an elaborate con.
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Adjusting well after leaving the dubs
by greendawn inafter you left the jws what were some milestone events that helped you adjust to normal life outside the cult eg meeting a genuinely christian group, or getting a good job with high income, marrying a nice "worldly" person.
after leaving i had a nice girlfriend which helped a lot to ease the tensions and an interesting job where i met a lot of people and had some good social life.
soon the jw world became a distant storm far below and after the internet came out i got the long since needed information on some still outstanding issues and lost all esteem for them as i realised the fds was definitely an elaborate con.
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Tyrone van leyen
Well Greendawn it's like this. I spent years living in the worst of conditions and then settled at the YMCA for 7 years. Finally, my dad who found his consceince somehow and knows what he threw away because indeed I was upright honest and clean before, saw that I was losing my health and offered to let me stay in his 500,000 dollar triplex with a huge rent rebate. His own home is half a million. Anyways I just can't take being around anyone anymore. I never go out ever for anything. Ihave no freinds and I feel like I don't fit in anywhre. I cried the first time I came on this board but it seemed like people cared and understood. I feel like I belong here and I feel safe cuz it's cyberspace. Your right, I am an intelligent guy and everywhere I went people told me what the hell are you doing here, you don't belong here. NO FUCKIN KIDDING> I want a pound of flesh from Shylock!
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Adjusting well after leaving the dubs
by greendawn inafter you left the jws what were some milestone events that helped you adjust to normal life outside the cult eg meeting a genuinely christian group, or getting a good job with high income, marrying a nice "worldly" person.
after leaving i had a nice girlfriend which helped a lot to ease the tensions and an interesting job where i met a lot of people and had some good social life.
soon the jw world became a distant storm far below and after the internet came out i got the long since needed information on some still outstanding issues and lost all esteem for them as i realised the fds was definitely an elaborate con.
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Tyrone van leyen
I feel like a poster boy victim on this board sometimes but I am not after sympathy although it is nice to be understood. I know their are others who have had it even worse than I. These are lost souls in the tally of suffereing that the watchtower has caused and most will never hear of them The watchtower must pay!
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Adjusting well after leaving the dubs
by greendawn inafter you left the jws what were some milestone events that helped you adjust to normal life outside the cult eg meeting a genuinely christian group, or getting a good job with high income, marrying a nice "worldly" person.
after leaving i had a nice girlfriend which helped a lot to ease the tensions and an interesting job where i met a lot of people and had some good social life.
soon the jw world became a distant storm far below and after the internet came out i got the long since needed information on some still outstanding issues and lost all esteem for them as i realised the fds was definitely an elaborate con.
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Tyrone van leyen
Sorry for the double sentence. I'm having a bit vino right now for my frazzled nerves. It helps loosen the tongue but doesn't help my typing any.
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Adjusting well after leaving the dubs
by greendawn inafter you left the jws what were some milestone events that helped you adjust to normal life outside the cult eg meeting a genuinely christian group, or getting a good job with high income, marrying a nice "worldly" person.
after leaving i had a nice girlfriend which helped a lot to ease the tensions and an interesting job where i met a lot of people and had some good social life.
soon the jw world became a distant storm far below and after the internet came out i got the long since needed information on some still outstanding issues and lost all esteem for them as i realised the fds was definitely an elaborate con.
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Tyrone van leyen
Ya sorry for sounding harsh Greendawn. My life is better now but I have lived like a hermit now for 4 years or so. I sometimes don't think people realize how bad it gets for some. From my left side of the spectrum I don'tr think most people on this board realize how bad it can get for some of us. I know there are many others like myself cuz I have seen them but they don't never get to post cuz maybe they wern't as lucky.
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Adjusting well after leaving the dubs
by greendawn inafter you left the jws what were some milestone events that helped you adjust to normal life outside the cult eg meeting a genuinely christian group, or getting a good job with high income, marrying a nice "worldly" person.
after leaving i had a nice girlfriend which helped a lot to ease the tensions and an interesting job where i met a lot of people and had some good social life.
soon the jw world became a distant storm far below and after the internet came out i got the long since needed information on some still outstanding issues and lost all esteem for them as i realised the fds was definitely an elaborate con.
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Tyrone van leyen
When I left it wasn't over anything doctrinal I was a complete and total beleiver. There was no where to turn for me. My whole family were in it and I was shunned by everyone I grew up with and considered freinds. Shrinks were dicouraged by Jws. The military which might have helped or even the police force for dicipline was out of the question too for fear of further witness indignation from family and freinds. All I could do was disappear. My thinking at the time was that if god was going to destroy me and the end was going to come why get a job. My solution was to have as much fun as I possibly could and return later. I had no direction no love no support no social skills with people in the world and I became a street person. I had great potential for just about anything and it was all lost. I hate hate hate the witnesses. I have become totally anti religiuos and untrusting of anyone, got involved in drugs of all kinds, went through Phychosis, horrendous depression, have a criminal record and have slept under bridges in hostels low rent shit holes with phychoes and had many close calls on my life. I got a life sentence and I want blood. Hows that for adjustment?
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Nothing.
by Narkissos inperhaps this paradoxical "topic" is one with which we here have dealt a little more, or a little more consciously, than the average population.. we used to have our heads full of beliefs (which we called "truth") in every direction: on theology, on cosmology, on paleontology, on past history, on so-called prophetic future, on heaven above, on earth, on she'ol beneath.
on many things -- current events, traditions, other peoples' beliefs and behaviours -- we had strong opinions which were directly or indirectly (the famous "conscience" matters) part of the same deal.
and of course our life was filled with activities and relationships, a community of "friends," people to "help" or "teach," etc.. then, gradually or suddenly, we came to suspect, often with a measure of terror, that all of this was not what we had thought and might sooner or later turn into... nothing.. this "nothing" is perhaps one of the most scary thoughts to people contemplating leaving the org one way or another.
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Tyrone van leyen
Ok so what wer'e saying here is no anchors based on bogus beleifs are necessary in an ever changing world. Perhaps we might have something here. After all we are in the information age. I like the idea of floating through life. Personally the way I see it, the world is full of info and we must decide in this short life span of ours what is useful info and what is garbage. Many people indeed fill their heads with garbage without even knowing it. Nark confuses me cuz he knows more about the bible than anyone I've ever encountered and yet totally rejects it. If it's garbage then why does he fill his head with it. I think it's because it gives him further conviction for his beleif in nothing and also cuz it fascinates him. For me I could never see the relevance of studying in depth a book that had relevance in a society over 3000 years ago. Now I do see the relevance of it because our whole society has been affected by this book. Narc can help dig people out of their religious graves. It's where a lot of us came from but maybe we'd be better off burning the bible and starting anew with 21st century knowledge.
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End of life
by Phil ini have recently been diagnosed with lukemia with a limited life left in the old bod.
my daughter is a jw and was lured into the institution by her then boyfriend (now husband).
my present intention is to prepare some idea of what she has got herself into.
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Tyrone van leyen
Phil I'm so sorry to hear about your situation. I know your time is limited but if her mind is set on this religion I would suggest that the volume of your info must be low density and high impact. I'm sure you will get plenty of help in this and can sort through it yourself. I might also suggest that you get her some info on what a painful expereince it is to grow up this way if she plans on raising kids in this. She has not a clue what she's is about to unleash on future generations of her offspring. Forgive me for being blunt but if time is limited you have to make her understand that its not just her that will be effected. There is a huge difference betweeen growing up in it and accepting it as an adult. If you wish to see some stories check out " The Wanderers" thread on what was it like growing up as a Jehovahs Witness. Take care brother, and my love goes to you.
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Nothing.
by Narkissos inperhaps this paradoxical "topic" is one with which we here have dealt a little more, or a little more consciously, than the average population.. we used to have our heads full of beliefs (which we called "truth") in every direction: on theology, on cosmology, on paleontology, on past history, on so-called prophetic future, on heaven above, on earth, on she'ol beneath.
on many things -- current events, traditions, other peoples' beliefs and behaviours -- we had strong opinions which were directly or indirectly (the famous "conscience" matters) part of the same deal.
and of course our life was filled with activities and relationships, a community of "friends," people to "help" or "teach," etc.. then, gradually or suddenly, we came to suspect, often with a measure of terror, that all of this was not what we had thought and might sooner or later turn into... nothing.. this "nothing" is perhaps one of the most scary thoughts to people contemplating leaving the org one way or another.
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Tyrone van leyen
I might also say that there is also no joy no sex no love with no consciousness. I changed my mind, Plug me into the matrix instead.
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Nothing.
by Narkissos inperhaps this paradoxical "topic" is one with which we here have dealt a little more, or a little more consciously, than the average population.. we used to have our heads full of beliefs (which we called "truth") in every direction: on theology, on cosmology, on paleontology, on past history, on so-called prophetic future, on heaven above, on earth, on she'ol beneath.
on many things -- current events, traditions, other peoples' beliefs and behaviours -- we had strong opinions which were directly or indirectly (the famous "conscience" matters) part of the same deal.
and of course our life was filled with activities and relationships, a community of "friends," people to "help" or "teach," etc.. then, gradually or suddenly, we came to suspect, often with a measure of terror, that all of this was not what we had thought and might sooner or later turn into... nothing.. this "nothing" is perhaps one of the most scary thoughts to people contemplating leaving the org one way or another.
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Tyrone van leyen
Well Dave, them I'm greatly lookin forward to poppin off